Douglas Misicko alias Douglas Mesner update 2

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We recommend you read these pages before reading this page:
http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/douglas-misicko-alias-douglas-mesner-update/
http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/douglas-misicko-alias-douglas-mesner/
http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/harassment-by-false-memory-proponents/
http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/rebuttal-to-the-report-from-the-smart-2009-conference/

These pages will give readers the full background on this subject as well as a rebuttal to Mesner’s comments about ritual abuse and our conference. These pages list many of the comments posted by Douglas Mesner as well as other aliases. These pages will show connections between Mesner and websites like process, radiofreesatan.com and the book “Might is Right.”

Douglas Mesner has continued using personal insults and attacks against survivors of ritual abuse and the professionals that work with them.

Propaganda Techniques

In his attack on child abuse and ritual abuse survivors, he uses the propaganda techniques of false analogies and name calling.

In the technique of false analogy, two things are compared that may or may not really be similar are presented as being similar. In most false analogies, there isn’t enough evidence available to support the comparison.

Mesner compares ritual abuse survivors to alien abductees. In this false comparison, he lists what he considers certain parallels between the two. Yet, this does not prove that either are the same. One can take any item or concept and then list hundreds of qualities and then take another item and do the same thing. Then one could make a short list of the similar qualities on these lists. This does not make either item similar, nor does it prove that ritual abuse memories are not real. Ritual abuse occurrences have been well documented, with scientific studies, corroboration and legal cases.

See http://childabusewiki.org/index.php?title=Ritual_Abuse for information on ritual abuse.

He also lists a couple of physiological similarities between alien abductees and trauma survivors. Of course, anyone under stress may report greater psychophysiological reactivity and this would not in any way prove a lack of veracity of the accounts of trauma survivors or ritual abuse survivors. All it shows is that people under stress show greater psychophysiological reactivity.


In the technique of name calling, one attaches a negative label to a person or concept. The use of this technique creates fear and arouses prejudice in the reader by using negative words or bad names to create an unfavorable opinion or hatred against a group, beliefs or ideas that the user would want the reader to disbelieve. The use of this method encourages the reader to make a conclusion without examining the actual evidence. Name calling can also used as a substitute for arguing the actual merits of an idea, belief or proposal.

Mesner uses this techniques often, calling those he disagrees with in certain topic areas “delusional” or “paranoid.” He calls theories he disagrees with “conspiracies theories” and organizations that expose ritual abuse and cult crimes a “danger” to people. The exposing of ritual abuse and child abuse crimes helps build the social awareness of these crimes, which can help with the prevention of future crimes against children.

MPD and Recovered Memory

Mesner continues to attack the reality of MPD – multiple personality disorder (now called DID – dissociative identity disorder) calling it mythical. The concept of DID/MPD has been well proven in the scientific literature and it is even in the DSM-IV-TR.

See http://ritualabuse.us/research/did/ for more information on DID-MPD.

Mesner calls the idea of recovered memory validity “debunked.” Yet, there is ample evidence that many studies that show fairly high corroboration rates for recovered memories with many corroborated cases of recovered memory.

See http://ritualabuse.us/research/memory-fms/recovered-memory-data/ for more information on recovered memory veracity.

Attacks on S.M.A.R.T.

Mesner continues his attacks on S.M.A.R.T. He apparently concludes that there is an “overlap” between S.M.A.R.T. and the “UFO community” just because S.M.A.R.T. had two press releases in our newsletter over ten years ago, one about a group and another about a person working on several issues (only one of which was alien abduction issues). He also critiques S.M.A.R.T. for having listed one person in our newsletter that S.M.A.R.T. listed for information on secret societies. This person in other places has also talked about aliens. This is similar to stating that a mainstream newspaper has an overlap with the UFO community, because they had articles about UFOs.

He takes extreme cases of ritual abuse and cult crimes out of context, ignoring evidence showing that these crimes may have or actually did occur. He uses this technique to attempt to discredit the large volume of work and research others and S.M.A.R.T. have presented. S.M.A.R.T. presents a large amount of information on its website, mainly from mainstream newspapers, journal articles and scientific websites. S.M.A.R.T. may not necessarily agree with all of the views presented at our conferences, on our webpage and in our newsletters. S.M.A.R.T. does however try to give voice to survivors of ritual abuse and child abuse crimes whenever possible.