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Tuesday, November 5, 2019

Grey Faction, Satanic Temple and Lucien Greaves Fact Sheet

Grey Faction, Satanic Temple and Lucien Greaves Fact Sheet

Grey Faction, Satanic Temple and Lucien Greaves Fact Sheet:

For almost a decade Douglas Misicko using several aliases (including Douglas Mesner and Lucien Greaves) has harassed groups helping child abuse, rape and trauma survivors. He has also harassed groups providing research in support of child abuse, rape and trauma survivors.

In 2013, he and others created a group called the Satanic Temple. One part of this group is called the Grey Faction. The Grey Faction states they “invade” conferences. These conferences are provided to help and educate child abuse, rape and trauma survivors and their helpers.

Their representatives that invade these conferences misrepresent their reasons for attending these conferences. They film people at these conferences without permission and publish these films without the permission of those filmed. The Grey Faction repeatedly misrepresents the research and statements of the people at these conferences. It uses repeated ad hominem attacks against child abuse and trauma researchers without rebutting their research or stories.

His organization uses propaganda techniques in its articles, movies and social media pages to manipulate readers’ opinions. They continue to repeat inaccurate information, even though it has been clearly rebutted in several of the articles listed below.

Douglas Mesner/Lucien Greaves has continued using insults and attacks against survivors of ritual abuse and the professionals that work with them. He has harassed and followed survivors and survivor advocates around the Internet for several years. Aliases have been used adding additional insults and name calling against survivors.

This page is a synopsis of critiques of the Grey Faction’s misinformation. Additional links have been added rebutting their statements about trauma, abuse and dissociation.  It also contains information critiquing The Satanic Temple and Douglas Mesner/Lucien Greaves.

Critiques of The Satanic Temple by Satanists and Satanic Groups:

religion: a master and slave relationship by Shane Bugbee https://web.archive.org/web/20160405153153/http://www.shanebugbee.com/?p=2161
“I’ll try to explain why I have such a disdain for The Satanic Temple, a practical joke turned religion and could be cult, and the reasons behind my need to make that disdain public, as there is seldom one reason.”
“Then Doug told me his main motivation for The Satanic Temple was profit, to create a “substantial income”, that was enough for me to want to cease helping in any way, and to question the true intent of this project. While I am all for profit, I want nothing to do with a cult. Because the people The Satanic Temple wants to extract money from are MY people….”
“I recall Doug Mesner telling me the C.I.A. had asked him to write some private reports for them.”

Former TST member – Allegations of anti-Semitic comments “TST and my excommunication from them after their recent Sabrina settlement and resurfaced antisemitic rant of Luciens from an old podcast. Folks are beginning to see the trends and connections identifying them as a business cult” https://theprocesstemple.blog/2018/11/20/the-satanic-temple-is-a-business-cult-of-alt-lite-asshole-trolls-unfollow/

Allegations of anti-Semitic comments by Lucien Greaves https://medium.com/@manu.navarre/my-take-on-lucien-greaves-antisemitic-rant-78ae9d13a532 Might Is Right Special https://archive.org/details/MightIsRightSpecial

Might Is Right or The Survival of the Fittest, is a book by pseudonymous author Ragnar Redbeard. First published in 1890, it heavily advocates egoist anarchism, amorality, consequentialism and psychological hedonism. In Might Is Right, Redbeard rejects conventional ideas of human and natural rights and argues that only strength or physical might can establish moral right….
There are also controversial parts of the book that deal with race and male–female relations, claiming that the woman and the family as a whole are the property of the man and proclaiming the innate superiority of the Anglo-Saxon race. The book also contains many strong anti-Semitic statements…. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Might_Is_Right

NEW website and NEW edition of MIGHT IS RIGHT!  ….it’s the absolute definitive edition of MIGHT IS RIGHT and will not be topped in my lifetime or even the newborn of todays lifetime… this limited edition OF 23 is signed and numbered by me, the publisher….an additional afterword from Ex-White Supremacist who was a White Supremacist when he wrote the afterword, George Eric Hawthorn, who now goes by the name George Burdi… also included is the editors note from the 1996 printing of Might I Right I put out, Katja Lane (Mrs. David Lane) and to add insult to it all, original artwork/illustrations by Doug Mesner a.k.a. Lucien Greaves of The Satanic Temple shame… a separate book plate from an older edition signed by the illustrator, Doug Mesner a.k.a. Lucien Greaves when he was still just a minion of mine. http://www.shanebugbee.com/?p=2593

Unmasking Lucien Greaves, Leader of the Satanic Temple  The author and Doug at a book signing for Might Is Right, 2004…. Lucien Greaves of the Satanic Temple first showed up at my door over a decade ago. He wanted a copy of a book I had republished called Might Is Right. It was a 100-year-old tome, long forgotten by most, with the exception of Anton LaVey,… The release of this new version of Might Is Right became a phenomenon within the underground, and that is what brought the future leader of the Satanic Temple to my door. Only his name wasn’t Lucien Greaves at the time, it was Doug Mesner. (This isn’t the first time Doug has been connected with the Temple, though it is the first time he has publicly admitted his involvement.)  When he first came to my home, Doug brought a stack of his drawings and writings with him. It was amazing stuff, and much to my surprise he left it with me. Not long after our first meeting, and after reviewing his sketchbooks at length, I reprinted a limited edition version of Might Is Right and asked Doug to illustrate the chapter headings for it. His work on the book was truly excellent. When I began podcasting in 2002, I invited him to co-host the first-ever live streaming 24 hour broadcast. For 24 hours straight we interviewed guests, philosophized, and argued. It was so great we did another one a year later…. https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/4w7adn/unmasking-lucien-greaves-aka-doug-mesner-leader-of-the-satanic-temple

On the Psychological Projection of Antisemitism by Satanists  https://danielkbuntovnik.wordpress.com/

“The Satanic Temple’s spokesman Douglas Misicko sums it up this way:

“Like, I think it’s okay to hate Jews if you hate them because they’re Jewish and they wear a stupid fuckin’ frisbie on their head [correct term: yarmulke or kippah] and walk around [and] think their God’s chosen people, but it’s not okay to hate somebody [‘born of Jewish blood’] just because their parents were stupid fuckin’ Jews and wore stupid frisbies on their head and thought the Jews were God’s chosen people […] Not everybody of Jewish blood is okay with me, it depends on if they follow the Jewish, uh… […] Satanic Jews are fine,” (Adam, “Doug Mesner [Lucien Greaves/Douglas Misicko] Satanic Temple Anti-Semitic Rant” (transcribed).”

High Priest Brian Werner resigns from The Satanic Temple https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIN4aZ8IMz0
Video Critique of TST and Doug by a former Satanic Temple member

The Satanic Temple Is Engulfed in a Civil War Over a Decision to Hire an Attorney With a Stable of Alt-Right Clients – Anna Merlan https://jezebel.com/the-satanic-temple-is-engulfed-in-a-civil-war-over-a-de-1828130997

“In the intervening months, the decision to sue Twitter has grown into part of a controversy that’s engulfed the organization and recently led one of the Temple’s major chapters, the Satanic Temple Los Angeles, to leave the group entirely. The breaking point, according to a statement issued by the former TST Los Angeles, is the attorney representing Greaves: Marc Randazza, a First Amendment lawyer who currently represents a major neo-Nazi publisher, several key alt-right figures, and Alex Jones.”

“Ali DiPasquale was one of the two chapter heads of TST Los Angeles. In a phone interview, she told us that all 30 people in the chapter voted unanimously to leave the Satanic Temple. DiPasquale alleges that in the nearly five years she’s been a TST member, the organization has become more hierarchical in a way she found unsettling.
“It went from where all the chapters were very autonomous but worked in a larger network,” she said, “to this national council and executive ministry who pretty much appointed themselves.” DiPasquale alleges, too, that the executive leadership was largely white and male, a decision that didn’t sit particularly well with her.”

“If all of this weren’t enough drama roiling the Satanic Temple, in a separate controversy that somehow also took place over the past week, one of the group’s international chapters has decided to leave. The Satanic Temple London & UK announced their departure last week; they subsequently renamed themselves Satanic Temple International.
In a statement, Zeke Apollyon, STI’s founder and High Cardinal, told us in part that TST was unable to adequately represent the priorities of Satanists abroad:
Our decision to leave came from our needs for decentralised bureaucracy and freedom from governance that was culturally isolated. The issues in the EU and around the world are different to the US. For example, some of our governments are theocratic and freedom of speech isnt a luxury afforded to citizens in many parts of the world. “

Jex Blackmore Aug 6 “The Struggle for Justice is Ongoing” https://medium.com/@JexBlackmore/the-struggle-for-justice-is-ongoing-6df38f8893db
On my departure from The Satanic Temple

“My role as a visible female voice in the organization seemed vital—after all, on multiple occasions, leadership exclusively invited men to speak on women’s reproductive rights campaigns. A decision I strongly oppose.
In February of 2018, the Temple asked me to step away from my role as a spokesperson due to the content of one of my personal performance pieces in which I called on people to sabotage and execute “the president”. The language I used was considered offensive by a few unnamed members in the Temple, and out of consideration for their discomfort, I stepped down. I stand by my words.
My departure was mutually agreed upon, but it was also business as usual—a small group of individuals with no accountability to the organization they represent asserting a paternalistic need to put a woman in her place, gain control, and undermine her autonomous power. I will not compromise the content of my creative work to satisfy the fears and complacency of others. The Satanic Temple that I joined years ago, when it was full of potential and courage, no longer exists and I cannot allow my voice, however controversial, to be silenced.”
“Over the years, members and chapter heads have requested and proposed the implementation of a gender, sexual, and racial diversity policy to ensure equity within TST leadership and alignment to the mission. The demand was not simply ignored but completely dismissed.”
“Likewise, while they have a mission “against the exclusion of other voices,” there has been no effort to create a diverse membership or rid the organization of a culture of racism and sexism. TST continues this hypocritic legacy to this day. The Salem Gallery regularly hosts whitewashed panels and art exhibitions.”

The Satanic Temple Fact Sheet https://www.churchofsatan.com/the-satanic-temple-fact-sheet.php
““The Satanic Temple” is a registered Trademark of United Federation of Churches LLC, which is listed as registered to Douglas Misicko (at)….Reason Alliance LTD is a religious non-profit also registered to Douglas Misicko at the same address.
Reason Alliance LTD paid bills for, and provided 501c3 documentation in support of, TST’s After School Satan Club in Seattle, however their own website claims they do not believe religious organizations should be tax exempt.
Original TST “High Priest” Brian Werner states in his 2014 resignation video that TST is a political organization that has nothing to do with Satanism. Werner claims the actual people behind TST have no interest in or connection with Satanism, a claim echoed by Bugbee.”

Doug Mesner aka Lucien Greaves, Truth About The Satanic Monument https://churchofahriman.net/2014/08/13/doug-mesner-aka-lucien-greaves-truth-about-the-satanic-monument/
“The Satanic Temple’s spokes man Doug Mesner aka Lucien Greaves, just stabbed us in the back.”

Daniel K. Buntovnik 21st Century Proletarian Literature https://danielkbuntovnik.wordpress.com/
Information on The Satanic Temple, Grey Faction, Lucien Greaves, Doug Mesner

A “Literary” Satanism? Decrypting Proto-Fascist and Antisemitic Themes in The Revolt of the Angels by Anatole France https://danielkbuntovnik.wordpress.com/

“The kind of antisemitism promoted in the work of Anatole France is that found in some strains of the primitive, pre-Marxian “utopian” or unscientific socialist movement.”

Pinkwashing: How “The Satanic Temple” Exploits LGBTQ+ Causes as a “Progressive” Fig Leaf https://danielkbuntovnik.wordpress.com/

“We see an example of this in Satanic Temple co-founder Douglas Misicko’s essay “Down the Spiral of Purity,” written in response to the secession of the Los Angeles chapter of TST in an act of protest against his decision to associate TST with Marc Randazza, a lawyer who habitually defends right wing extremists in court and has been involved in the case Sines et al v. Kessler et al, whose defendants include members of the neo-Nazi terrorist groups that orchestrated the violent attacks on anti-racists during the infamous August 2017 “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville, Virginia.”

Witchy Protests and Fake Feminists: The “Satanic Panic”-cum-“Burning Times” as Völkisch Myth and its Basis in Antiziganism https://danielkbuntovnik.wordpress.com/

“Despite the fact that The Satanic Temple has openly made a spectacle of symbolically perpetrating male sexual violence against a woman’s corpse, its leader having rubbed his genitals on a woman’s grave under the nonsensical pretense of pretending to turn her into a lesbian (7.2), the sect nevertheless attempts to portray itself as being aligned with feminism and women’s liberation movements by posturing as a group engaged in pro-choice activism and which defends the rights to abortion and access to contraception.”

“By examining the “Burning Times” myth and seeing that it fails to measure up to the reality of witch-hunting in the early modern era, we will see that, in a completely analogous way, the “Satanic Panic” myth fails to measure up to the reality of the “moral panic” narrative’s status as a meme for those eager to dismiss concerns about neo-fascist operations and the organized aspects of sexual abuse as “exaggerated.”

On the Psychological Projection of Antisemitism by Satanists  https://danielkbuntovnik.wordpress.com/

“The Satanic Temple’s spokesman Douglas Misicko sums it up this way:

“Like, I think it’s okay to hate Jews if you hate them because they’re Jewish and they wear a stupid fuckin’ frisbie on their head [correct term: yarmulke or kippah] and walk around [and] think their God’s chosen people, but it’s not okay to hate somebody [‘born of Jewish blood’] just because their parents were stupid fuckin’ Jews and wore stupid frisbies on their head and thought the Jews were God’s chosen people […] Not everybody of Jewish blood is okay with me, it depends on if they follow the Jewish, uh… […] Satanic Jews are fine,” (Adam, “Doug Mesner [Lucien Greaves/Douglas Misicko] Satanic Temple Anti-Semitic Rant” (transcribed).”

“In April 2018, The Satanic Temple’s anti-psychiatry operation “Grey Faction” produced and published a short video titled “The Greenbaum Speech: The Satanic Panic’s Central Folklore.” By presenting clips from the “Grey Force”-advocating psychologist’s speech in a lurid way, with “spooky,” old-timey footage of creepy-looking people holding a seance, the video attempts to portray discursive exploration of links between Satanic psychological operations and the CIA’s “Project MK Ultra” as quasi-psychotic, irrational, and, moreover, antisemitic. The “Grey Faction” video falsely asserts that the so-called “Greenbaum Speech” makes “wildly implausible claims” which “lack corroboration.” Taking into consideration the following arguments, we will see that although the narrative associated with the so-called “Greenbaum speech” may well contain some distortions or corruptions, the essential elements of the historical narrative summarized above (involving the recruitment of Jewish concentration camp inmates for participation in Nazi research and experimentation—not only as human guinea pigs, but as researchers—and the recuperation of Nazi research by the post-WWII CIA “behavioral modification” program[s] known as “Project MK Ultra”) are plausible and can in fact be corroborated by a wide variety of reliable sources.”

Cultural Gaslighting; or, “Falsified History Syndrome”  https://danielkbuntovnik.wordpress.com/

“”The concern of The Satanic Temple’s “Grey Faction” with spreading the “moral panic of the 1980s and ’90s” and “witch-hunt” memes under the label of “Satanic Panic” throughout mass media (often shallowly buried under the pretext of leading a “separation of church and state” fight) has as much to do with trying to harass the medical community into altering science to match the group’s pseudo-rationalistic religious beliefs (e.g., by revising positions on the existence, prevalence, and/or treatment of various mental disorders, implying the ultimate negation of the medical model of mental health care) as it does with sowing doubt in the public mind about matters of 20th century history which continue to have important political implications today.”

“In examining the links between the anti-psychiatry activism of The Satanic Temple and the Process Church and their roots in the conspiracy theories of the Church of Scientology about Judeo-Bolshevik “psychs,” we have been led to the CIA’s “Project MK Ultra,” which, we have seen, can be supposed to have benefited from the Church of Scientology’s anti-psychiatry discourse because the latter disseminated a false motive for the widespread psychiatric abuse occurring under the aegis of “Project MK Ultra”

“Ironically, the historical negationists’ invariable delimitation of the “Satanic Panic” to the decades of “the 1980s and 1990s” is indicative of the fact that it is this “moral panic” narrative itself which is apt to be viewed as an attempt to implant false memories. By getting enough major media outlets to repetitively broadcast enough times that steady refrain of Satanic Temple spokesman Douglas Misicko (i.e., “the Satanic Panic of the 1980s and 1990s”), the public may thus begin to falsely “remember” that the “Satanic Panic” began in the 1980s.”

Critiques of Doug Mesner/Lucien Greaves for his attacks on child abuse survivors:

Possible Hate Groups – How Do They Effect Survivors and Their Resources by Neil Brick
This presentation will discuss groups that attack survivors and their helpers due to their diagnosis of dissociation and dissociative identity disorder and work recovering from trauma.
https://ritualabuse.us/smart-conference/2019-conference/possible-hate-groups-how-do-they-effect-survivors-and-their-resources/  Information on Lucien Greaves/Doug Mesner and The Satanic Temple’s Grey Faction.

Exposing Doug Mesner/Lucien Greaves – co-founder of the Satanic Temple and Grey Faction presenter https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/exposing-doug-mesnerlucien-greaves-co-founder-of-the-satanic-temple-and-grey-faction-presenter/
This page was created to let people know the other side of Doug Mesner/Lucien Greaves’ work.

Harvard can do better than give a platform to a “Black Mass” promoter who ridicules sex abuse victims http://www.patheos.com/blogs/feastofeden/2014/05/harvard-can-do-better-than-give-a-platform-to-a-black-mass-promoter-who-ridicules-sex-abuse-victims/
“he (Lucien Greaves) has a long Internet trail, which in this case shows quite a bit of vituperation (defined as “bitter and abusive language”) directed at child sex-abuse victims and those who support them.)”

How to stop the OKC “Black Mass” for now http://www.patheos.com/blogs/feastofeden/2014/07/how-to-stop-the-black-mass-for-now/
“I am not encouraged by the fact that Greaves is close with registered sex offender…, who, along with his wife, run a Satanic worship center in….. Look up …..in the national sex offender registry and you will see that he was convicted of sexual battery in 2009”

The Urban Legends of Those Attacking Ritual Abuse Theories and the False Logic of False Memory Proponents and Their Occultist Supporters – Presentation by Neil Brick https://ritualabuse.us/smart-conference/2016-conference/the-urban-legends-of-those-attacking-ritual-abuse-theories/
“My license to practice therapy has been threatened with filed licensing complaints by people connected to a group called the Grey Faction, a part of the Satanic Temple. My job as a therapist has nothing to do with my advocacy efforts to stop child abuse and I have very clear professional and private boundaries that I maintain to ensure this continues to occur. Yet, the Grey Faction associates keep harassing me and others in the field. Their attacks are factually inaccurate and meritless.”
“I believe that the work of the Grey Faction is meant to purposefully dehumanize and insult ideological opponents, so our ideas are derided and not believed.”

Reply to the Satanic Temple’s Grey Faction online guest post https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/reply-to-the-satanic-temples-grey-faction-online-guest-post/
“In conclusion, the guest post by the Satanic Temple’s Grey Faction criticizes the strong research and theories of ritual abuse survivors and those with years of research, experience and education in the trauma field. (The members of the Grey Faction have unknown credentials and may not have the experience to accurately determine trauma theory and research.) The guest post by the Satanic Temple’s Grey Faction presents inaccurate arguments, which are refuted in this article.”
“The Grey Faction claims they are combating pseudoscience with rational inquiry, but this rational inquiry is actually predetermined opinion, bolstered by name calling, ad hominem attacks and insults. There is no real rational inquiry because there is no evidence that all of the facts were looked at neutrally to derive a conclusion. It appears the only facts considered were the ones that back their arguments. In its articles, the Grey Faction hides behind the name of science and rationality, when in reality it appears it is an advocacy organization used to discredit ritual abuse survivors realities’ and their resources.”

Reply to the Grey Faction’s Petition to Revoke the License of Neil Brick https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/reply-to-the-grey-factions-petition-to-revoke-the-license-of-neil-brick/
“The petition states that The Allied Board of Health Professionals licensure division, having previously received a complaint…did nothing. The fact is that no violations were found and no disciplinary actions were taken (against Neil Brick after a one year investigation). We believe that this new letter is part of the continued actions of harassment against Neil Brick and those that help child and ritual abuse survivors.”
“The (Grey Faction) petition states “While we are not privy to records that indicate methods of treatment employed in Neil Brick’s practice.”….There is no evidence there are any problems with any methods of treatment Neil uses.”
(Note: The Grey Faction continues to publish misinformation regarding Neil Brick in continued ad hominem attacks on his research.)

Douglas Misicko alias Douglas Mesner update 7 – Radio Interview Rebuttal https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/douglas-misicko-alias-douglas-mesner-update-7-radio-interview-rebuttal/
“Doug Mesner has continued his attacks on Neil Brick and other ritual abuse survivors. He continues his use of name calling and insults against ritual abuse survivors and their helpers. He repeats the same misstatements about the conference we have rebutted in earlier articles on this website. He calls those he has ideological disagreements with as having delusions and paranoia.”
“In a radio interview…, Mesner states “The organization S.M.A.R.T is run by this little shit named Neil Brick, he’s actually when I first saw him, he’s this staggering little moron with this greasy comb over and thick glasses, and he’s very short and very frail.” (Note: These descriptions are inaccurate and show continued personal attacks on those supporting child abuse survivors.)

Douglas Mesner and the Lucien Greaves Satanic Temple Connection https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/douglas-mesner-and-the-lucien-greaves-satanic-temple-connection
“The Satanic Temple’s website stated: In 2012, Neil Bricke, raised in a multigenerational Satanic Temple tradition of worship, decided, with the blessings of his fellow Satanic devotees, to officially found the Satanic Temple.
SMART believes that this was meant to be an attack on Neil Brick, the founder of SMART.”
(Note: Unfortunately this false story was carried by several media outfits. Most never issued any corrections or retractions.)
“In another article at vice.com (also covered in other Internet articles) about Satanists turning the founder of the Westboro Baptist Church’s deceased mother “gay,” the article describes “Lucien Greaves” performing a “Pink Mass” over the grave of the Westboro Baptist Church founder’s mother. The article states that the Pink Mass is a Satanic ritual performed after death that will turn a deceased person’s straight spirit into a homosexual one. This event was covered on many other news pages also. The Satanic Temple states it eschews supernaturalism, yet performs rituals over a dead person’s grave.”
“There were also pictures of Lucien Greaves on the Internet of him pulling his penis while rubbing his scrotum on the gravestone. In the state of Mississippi, where this ritual occurred, “Lucien Greaves” was charged by the police with desecration of a grave according to a vice.com article and other articles on the Internet.”

Critiques of Doug Mesner/Lucien Greaves by others:

Doug Mesner/Lucien Greaves:…behind the Harvard Black Mass http://www.tinfoilhattime.com/2014/05/20/doug-mesnerlucien-greaves-the-huckster-behind-the-harvard-black-mass-and-similar-shams/

Petition to Stop Attacks Against Child Abuse/Ritual Abuse Survivors and Neil Brick. https://www.change.org/p/protect-child-abuse-survivors-petition-to-stop-attacks-against-child-abuse-and-ritual-abuse-survivors-and-neil-brick

“We are asking everyone to sign this petition and let others know about it. Let’s stop the attacks against child abuse survivors and their helpers.”
“Recently vicious online attacks have been published by The Satanic Temple’s Grey Faction and Douglas Mesner/Lucien Greaves.”

Additional Information on Douglas Mesner and SMART:

https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/douglas-misicko-alias-douglas-mesner-update-6-examiner-com-article/ https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/douglas-misicko-alias-douglas-mesner-update-5/ https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/douglas-misicko-alias-douglas-mesner-update-4/ https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/douglas-misicko-alias-douglas-mesner-update-3/ https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/douglas-misicko-alias-douglas-mesner-update-2/ https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/douglas-misicko-alias-douglas-mesner-update/ https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/douglas-misicko-alias-douglas-mesner/ https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/harassment-by-false-memory-proponents/ https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/rebuttal-to-the-report-from-the-smart-2009-conference/

Research showing the veracity of child abuse, ritual abuse, trauma and dissociation research:
(Note: These are only a few of the hundreds of webpages at the ritualabuse.us and other websites verifying our claims and rebutting the information by the Grey Faction and Lucien Greaves.)

Stop Mind Control and Ritual Abuse Today https://ritualabuse.us/
We publish scientific information about ritual abuse and trauma crimes.

Proof That Ritual Abuse Exists https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/

Large List of Ritual Abuse and Child Abuse References https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/studies/satanic-ritual-abuse-evidence-with-information-on-the-mcmartin-preschool-case/

Research and Information on Dissociative Identity Disorder (formerly called Multiple Personality Disorder) https://ritualabuse.us/research/did/

Day Care and Child Abuse Cases https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/articles/day-care-and-child-abuse-cases/
Data rebutting the skeptical viewpoints of these cases.

Scientific Evidence that Dissociative Identity Disorder (Multiple Personality Disorder or MPD) is caused by Childhood Trauma https://eassurvey.wordpress.com/2014/11/07/evidence-that-dissociative-identity-disorder-multiple-personality-disorder-or-mpd-is-caused-by-childhood-trauma/

False memory syndrome proponents tactics https://ritualabuse.us/research/memory-fms/false-memory-syndrome-proponents-tactics/
“False memory syndrome proponents have done the following to try and ensure that only their point of view is in the public view. Harassing debate opponents, misrepresenting the data in the field and controlling the media.”
(Note: This article shows the long history of the harassment of child abuse survivors.)

Recovered memory corroboration rates https://ritualabuse.us/research/memory-fms/recovered-memory-corroboration-rates/
“There are many studies that show fairly high corroboration rates for recovered memories.:

An Interview With the Author of Hell Minus One https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/survivor-stories/interview-with-the-author-of-hell-minus-one/

Hell Minus One https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/survivor-stories/hell-minus-one-signed-verified-confessions-of-satanic-ritual-abuse/ “Signed verified confessions of satanic ritual abuse – Anne’s parents confessed their atrocities – both in writing and verbally.”

False allegations of child sexual abuse by children are rare https://ritualabuse.us/research/false-allegations-of-child-sexual-abuse-by-children-are-rare/
“allegations made by child victims match closely with confessions of pedophiles” “The evidence indicates that very few (children) lied originally.” “children tend to minimize and deny abuse, not exaggerate or over-report such incidents”

Thursday, April 12, 2018

Grey Faction, Satanic Temple and Lucien Greaves Fact Sheet

Grey Faction, Satanic Temple and Lucien Greaves Fact Sheet:

For almost a decade Douglas Misicko using several aliases (including Douglas Mesner and Lucien Greaves) has harassed groups helping child abuse, rape and trauma survivors. He has also harassed groups providing research in support of child abuse, rape and trauma survivors.

In 2013, he and others created a group called the Satanic Temple. One part of this group is called the Grey Faction. The Grey Faction states they “invade” conferences. These conferences are provided to help and educate child abuse, rape and trauma survivors and their helpers.

Their representatives that invade these conferences misrepresent their reasons for attending these conferences. They film people at these conferences without permission and publish these films without the permission of those filmed. The Grey Faction repeatedly misrepresents the research and statements of the people at these conferences. It uses repeated ad hominem attacks against child abuse and trauma researchers without rebutting their research or stories.

His organization uses propaganda techniques in its articles, movies and social media pages to manipulate readers’ opinions. They continue to repeat inaccurate information, even though it has been clearly rebutted in several of the articles listed below.

Douglas Mesner/Lucien Greaves has continued using insults and attacks against survivors of ritual abuse and the professionals that work with them. He has harassed and followed survivors and survivor advocates around the Internet for several years. Aliases have been used adding additional insults and name calling against survivors.

This page is a synopsis of critiques of the Grey Faction’s misinformation. Additional links have been added rebutting their statements about trauma, abuse and dissociation.  It also contains information critiquing The Satanic Temple and Douglas Mesner/Lucien Greaves.

Critiques of The Satanic Temple by Satanists and Satanic Groups:

religion: a master and slave relationship by Shane Bugbee http://www.shanebugbee.com/?p=2161
“I’ll try to explain why I have such a disdain for The Satanic Temple, a practical joke turned religion and could be cult, and the reasons behind my need to make that disdain public, as there is seldom one reason.”
“Then Doug told me his main motivation for The Satanic Temple was profit, to create a “substantial income”, that was enough for me to want to cease helping in any way, and to question the true intent of this project. While I am all for profit, I want nothing to do with a cult. Because the people The Satanic Temple wants to extract money from are MY people….”
“I recall Doug Mesner telling me the C.I.A. had asked him to write some private reports for them.”


High Priest Brian Werner resigns from The Satanic Temple https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIN4aZ8IMz0
Video Critique of TST and Doug by a former Satanic Temple 

member


The Satanic Temple Is Engulfed in a Civil War Over a Decision to Hire an Attorney With a Stable of Alt-Right Clients – Anna Merlan
https://jezebel.com/the-satanic-temple-is-engulfed-in-a-civil-war-over-a-de-1828130997
“In the intervening months, the decision to sue Twitter has grown into part of a controversy that’s engulfed the organization and recently led one of the Temple’s major chapters, the Satanic Temple Los Angeles, to leave the group entirely. The breaking point, according to a statement issued by the former TST Los Angeles, is the attorney representing Greaves: Marc Randazza, a First Amendment lawyer who currently represents a major neo-Nazi publisher, several key alt-right figures, and Alex Jones.”


“Ali DiPasquale was one of the two chapter heads of TST Los Angeles. In a phone interview, she told us that all 30 people in the chapter voted unanimously to leave the Satanic Temple. DiPasquale alleges that in the nearly five years she’s been a TST member, the organization has become more hierarchical in a way she found unsettling.
“It went from where all the chapters were very autonomous but worked in a larger network,” she said, “to this national council and executive ministry who pretty much appointed themselves.” DiPasquale alleges, too, that the executive leadership was largely white and male, a decision that didn’t sit particularly well with her.”


“If all of this weren’t enough drama roiling the Satanic Temple, in a separate controversy that somehow also took place over the past week, one of the group’s international chapters has decided to leave. The Satanic Temple London & UK announced their departure last week; they subsequently renamed themselves Satanic Temple International.
In a statement, Zeke Apollyon, STI’s founder and High Cardinal, told us in part that TST was unable to adequately represent the priorities of Satanists abroad:
Our decision to leave came from our needs for decentralised bureaucracy and freedom from governance that was culturally isolated. The issues in the EU and around the world are different to the US. For example, some of our governments are theocratic and freedom of speech isnt a luxury afforded to citizens in many parts of the world. “


Jex Blackmore Aug 6
“The Struggle for Justice is Ongoing”

https://medium.com/@JexBlackmore/the-struggle-for-justice-is-ongoing-6df38f8893db


On my departure from The Satanic Temple
“My role as a visible female voice in the organization seemed vital—after all, on multiple occasions, leadership exclusively invited men to speak on women’s reproductive rights campaigns. A decision I strongly oppose.


In February of 2018, the Temple asked me to step away from my role as a spokesperson due to the content of one of my personal performance pieces in which I called on people to sabotage and execute “the president”. The language I used was considered offensive by a few unnamed members in the Temple, and out of consideration for their discomfort, I stepped down. I stand by my words.
My departure was mutually agreed upon, but it was also business as usual—a small group of individuals with no accountability to the organization they represent asserting a paternalistic need to put a woman in her place, gain control, and undermine her autonomous power. I will not compromise the content of my creative work to satisfy the fears and complacency of others. The Satanic Temple that I joined years ago, when it was full of potential and courage, no longer exists and I cannot allow my voice, however controversial, to be silenced.”


“Over the years, members and chapter heads have requested and proposed the implementation of a gender, sexual, and racial diversity policy to ensure equity within TST leadership and alignment to the mission. The demand was not simply ignored but completely dismissed.”
“Likewise, while they have a mission “against the exclusion of other voices,” there has been no effort to create a diverse membership or rid the organization of a culture of racism and sexism. TST continues this hypocritic legacy to this day. The Salem Gallery regularly hosts whitewashed panels and art exhibitions.”


The Satanic Temple Fact Sheet https://www.churchofsatan.com/the-satanic-temple-fact-sheet.php
““The Satanic Temple” is a registered Trademark of United Federation of Churches LLC, which is listed as registered to Douglas Misicko (at).... Reason Alliance LTD is a religious non-profit also registered to Douglas Misicko at the same address.
Reason Alliance LTD paid bills for, and provided 501c3 documentation in support of, TST’s After School Satan Club in Seattle, however their own website claims they do not believe religious organizations should be tax exempt.
Original TST “High Priest” Brian Werner states in his 2014 resignation video that TST is a political organization that has nothing to do with Satanism. Werner claims the actual people behind TST have no interest in or connection with Satanism, a claim echoed by Bugbee.”

Doug Mesner aka Lucien Greaves, Truth About The Satanic Monument https://churchofahriman.net/2014/08/13/doug-mesner-aka-lucien-greaves-truth-about-the-satanic-monument/
“The Satanic Temple’s spokes man Doug Mesner aka Lucien Greaves, just stabbed us in the back.”


Critiques of Doug Mesner/Lucien Greaves for his attacks on child abuse survivors:

Exposing Doug Mesner/Lucien Greaves – co-founder of the Satanic Temple and Grey Faction presenter https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/exposing-doug-mesnerlucien-greaves-co-founder-of-the-satanic-temple-and-grey-faction-presenter/
This page was created to let people know the other side of Doug Mesner/Lucien Greaves’ work.


Harvard can do better than give a platform to a “Black Mass” promoter who ridicules sex abuse victims http://www.patheos.com/blogs/feastofeden/2014/05/harvard-can-do-better-than-give-a-platform-to-a-black-mass-promoter-who-ridicules-sex-abuse-victims/
“he (Lucien Greaves) has a long Internet trail, which in this case shows quite a bit of vituperation (defined as “bitter and abusive language”) directed at child sex-abuse victims and those who support them.)”
patheos.com/…/harvard-can-do-better-than-give-a-platform-to-a-black-mass-promoter-who-ridicules-sex-abuse-victims

How to stop the OKC “Black Mass” for now http://www.patheos.com/blogs/feastofeden/2014/07/how-to-stop-the-black-mass-for-now/
“I am not encouraged by the fact that Greaves is close with registered sex offender…, who, along with his wife, run a Satanic worship center in….. Look up …..in the national sex offender registry and you will see that he was convicted of sexual battery in 2009”


The Urban Legends of Those Attacking Ritual Abuse Theories and the False Logic of False Memory Proponents and Their Occultist Supporters – Presentation by Neil Brick https://ritualabuse.us/smart-conference/2016-conference/the-urban-legends-of-those-attacking-ritual-abuse-theories/
“My license to practice therapy has been threatened with filed licensing complaints by people connected to a group called the Grey Faction, a part of the Satanic Temple. My job as a therapist has nothing to do with my advocacy efforts to stop child abuse and I have very clear professional and private boundaries that I maintain to ensure this continues to occur. Yet, the Grey Faction associates keep harassing me and others in the field. Their attacks are factually inaccurate and meritless.”
“I believe that the work of the Grey Faction is meant to purposefully dehumanize and insult ideological opponents, so our ideas are derided and not believed.”

Reply to the Satanic Temple’s Grey Faction online guest post https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/reply-to-the-satanic-temples-grey-faction-online-guest-post/
“In conclusion, the guest post by the Satanic Temple’s Grey Faction criticizes the strong research and theories of ritual abuse survivors and those with years of research, experience and education in the trauma field. (The members of the Grey Faction have unknown credentials and may not have the experience to accurately determine trauma theory and research.) The guest post by the Satanic Temple’s Grey Faction presents inaccurate arguments, which are refuted in this article.”
“The Grey Faction claims they are combating pseudoscience with rational inquiry, but this rational inquiry is actually predetermined opinion, bolstered by name calling, ad hominem attacks and insults. There is no real rational inquiry because there is no evidence that all of the facts were looked at neutrally to derive a conclusion. It appears the only facts considered were the ones that back their arguments. In its articles, the Grey Faction hides behind the name of science and rationality, when in reality it appears it is an advocacy organization used to discredit ritual abuse survivors realities’ and their resources.”


Reply to the Grey Faction’s Petition to Revoke the License of Neil Brick https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/reply-to-the-grey-factions-petition-to-revoke-the-license-of-neil-brick/
“The petition states that The Allied Board of Health Professionals licensure division, having previously received a complaint…did nothing. The fact is that no violations were found and no disciplinary actions were taken (against Neil Brick after a one year investigation). We believe that this new letter is part of the continued actions of harassment against Neil Brick and those that help child and ritual abuse survivors.”
“The (Grey Faction) petition states “While we are not privy to records that indicate methods of treatment employed in Neil Brick’s practice.”….There is no evidence there are any problems with any methods of treatment Neil uses.”
(Note: The Grey Faction continues to publish misinformation regarding Neil Brick in continued ad hominem attacks on his research.)

Douglas Misicko alias Douglas Mesner update 7 – Radio Interview Rebuttal https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/douglas-misicko-alias-douglas-mesner-update-7-radio-interview-rebuttal/
“Doug Mesner has continued his attacks on Neil Brick and other ritual abuse survivors. He continues his use of name calling and insults against ritual abuse survivors and their helpers. He repeats the same misstatements about the conference we have rebutted in earlier articles on this website. He calls those he has ideological disagreements with as having delusions and paranoia.”
“In a radio interview…, Mesner states “The organization S.M.A.R.T is run by this little shit named Neil Brick, he’s actually when I first saw him, he’s this staggering little moron with this greasy comb over and thick glasses, and he’s very short and very frail.” (Note: These descriptions are inaccurate and show continued personal attacks on those supporting child abuse survivors.)

Douglas Mesner and the Lucien Greaves Satanic Temple Connection https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/douglas-mesner-and-the-lucien-greaves-satanic-temple-connection
“The Satanic Temple’s website stated: In 2012, Neil Bricke, raised in a multigenerational Satanic Temple tradition of worship, decided, with the blessings of his fellow Satanic devotees, to officially found the Satanic Temple.
SMART believes that this was meant to be an attack on Neil Brick, the founder of SMART.”
(Note: Unfortunately this false story was carried by several media outfits. Most never issued any corrections or retractions.)
“In another article at vice.com (also covered in other Internet articles) about Satanists turning the founder of the Westboro Baptist Church’s deceased mother “gay,” the article describes “Lucien Greaves” performing a “Pink Mass” over the grave of the Westboro Baptist Church founder’s mother. The article states that the Pink Mass is a Satanic ritual performed after death that will turn a deceased person’s straight spirit into a homosexual one. This event was covered on many other news pages also. The Satanic Temple states it eschews supernaturalism, yet performs rituals over a dead person’s grave.”
“There were also pictures of Lucien Greaves on the Internet of him pulling his penis while rubbing his scrotum on the gravestone. In the state of Mississippi, where this ritual occurred, “Lucien Greaves” was charged by the police with desecration of a grave according to a vice.com article and other articles on the Internet.”

Critiques of Doug Mesner/Lucien Greaves by others:

Doug Mesner/Lucien Greaves:…behind the Harvard Black Mass http://www.tinfoilhattime.com/2014/05/20/doug-mesnerlucien-greaves-the-huckster-behind-the-harvard-black-mass-and-similar-shams/

Petition to Stop Attacks Against Child Abuse/Ritual Abuse Survivors and Neil Brick. https://www.change.org/p/protect-child-abuse-survivors-petition-to-stop-attacks-against-child-abuse-and-ritual-abuse-survivors-and-neil-brick

“We are asking everyone to sign this petition and let others know about it. Let’s stop the attacks against child abuse survivors and their helpers.”
“Recently vicious online attacks have been published by The Satanic Temple’s Grey Faction and Douglas Mesner/Lucien Greaves.”


Additional Information on Douglas Mesner and SMART:

https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/douglas-misicko-alias-douglas-mesner-update-6-examiner-com-article/ https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/douglas-misicko-alias-douglas-mesner-update-5/ https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/douglas-misicko-alias-douglas-mesner-update-4/ https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/douglas-misicko-alias-douglas-mesner-update-3/ https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/douglas-misicko-alias-douglas-mesner-update-2/ https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/douglas-misicko-alias-douglas-mesner-update/ https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/douglas-misicko-alias-douglas-mesner/ https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/harassment-by-false-memory-proponents/ https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/rebuttal-to-the-report-from-the-smart-2009-conference/

Research showing the veracity of child abuse, ritual abuse, trauma and dissociation research:
(Note: These are only a few of the hundreds of webpages at the ritualabuse.us and other websites verifying our claims and rebutting the information by the Grey Faction and Lucien Greaves.)


Stop Mind Control and Ritual Abuse Today https://ritualabuse.us/
We publish scientific information about ritual abuse and trauma crimes.


Proof That Ritual Abuse Exists https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/

Large List of Ritual Abuse and Child Abuse References https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/studies/satanic-ritual-abuse-evidence-with-information-on-the-mcmartin-preschool-case/

Research and Information on Dissociative Identity Disorder (formerly called Multiple Personality Disorder) https://ritualabuse.us/research/did/

Day Care and Child Abuse Cases https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/articles/day-care-and-child-abuse-cases/
Data rebutting the skeptical viewpoints of these cases.


Scientific Evidence that Dissociative Identity Disorder (Multiple Personality Disorder or MPD) is caused by Childhood Trauma https://eassurvey.wordpress.com/2014/11/07/evidence-that-dissociative-identity-disorder-multiple-personality-disorder-or-mpd-is-caused-by-childhood-trauma/

False memory syndrome proponents tactics https://ritualabuse.us/research/memory-fms/false-memory-syndrome-proponents-tactics/
“False memory syndrome proponents have done the following to try and ensure that only their point of view is in the public view. Harassing debate opponents, misrepresenting the data in the field and controlling the media.”
(Note: This article shows the long history of the harassment of child abuse survivors.)


Recovered memory corroboration rates https://ritualabuse.us/research/memory-fms/recovered-memory-corroboration-rates/
“There are many studies that show fairly high corroboration rates for recovered memories.:


An Interview With the Author of Hell Minus One https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/survivor-stories/interview-with-the-author-of-hell-minus-one/

Hell Minus One https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/survivor-stories/hell-minus-one-signed-verified-confessions-of-satanic-ritual-abuse/ “Signed verified confessions of satanic ritual abuse – Anne’s parents confessed their atrocities – both in writing and verbally.”

False allegations of child sexual abuse by children are rare https://ritualabuse.us/research/false-allegations-of-child-sexual-abuse-by-children-are-rare/
“allegations made by child victims match closely with confessions of pedophiles” “The evidence indicates that very few (children) lied originally.” “children tend to minimize and deny abuse, not exaggerate or over-report such incidents”


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Sunday, May 15, 2011

Douglas Misicko alias Douglas Mesner update 3

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We recommend you read these pages before reading this page:
http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/douglas-misicko-alias-douglas-mesner-update-2/ http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/douglas-misicko-alias-douglas-mesner-update/ http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/douglas-misicko-alias-douglas-mesner/
http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/harassment-by-false-memory-proponents/ http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/rebuttal-to-the-report-from-the-smart-2009-conference/

These pages will give readers the full background on this subject as well as a rebuttal to Mesner’s comments about ritual abuse and our conference. These pages list many of the comments posted by Douglas Mesner as well as other aliases. These pages will show connections between Mesner and websites like process, radiofreesatan.com and the book “Might is Right.”

Douglas Mesner has continued using personal insults and attacks against survivors of ritual abuse and the professionals that work with them.

In his more recent attacks on SMART, he continues to take extreme cases of ritual abuse and cult crimes out of context, ignoring evidence showing that these crimes may have or actually did occur. He uses this technique to attempt to discredit the large volume of work and research others and S.M.A.R.T. have presented.

S.M.A.R.T. presents a large amount of information on its website, mainly from mainstream newspapers, journal articles and scientific websites.
S.M.A.R.T. may not necessarily agree with all of the views presented at our conferences, on our webpage and in our newsletters. S.M.A.R.T. does however try to give voice to survivors of ritual abuse and child abuse crimes whenever possible.

Mesner incorrectly states that “bill schnoebelen” spoke at our conferences, in a false attempt to connect our conference presenters to research on “evil extraterrestrial invaders.” Our conferences work with child abuse and ritual abuse victims and their helpers and have no connection to research on “extraterrestrial(s).”

He continues to call S.M.A.R.T. “cult-like,” yet the reality is that S.M.A.R.T works hard to educate people about cults, expose their techniques whenever possible and teach people ways to avoid joining cults.

S.M.A.R.T. has had many published professionals speak at its conferences. S.M.A.R.T. has produced hundreds of pages of research articles backing its viewpoints.

When deciding upon the veracity of S.M.A.R.T.’s research and work, we recommend that readers check out the credentials of those attacking S.M.A.R.T., their experience in the field of child abuse and the tactics they use vs the research we provide that conclusively proves that ritual abuse exists.


Evidence ritual abuse exists:
http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/
http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/studies/satanic-ritual-abuse-evidence-with-information-on-the-mcmartin-preschool-case/

Wednesday, March 9, 2011

Douglas Misicko alias Douglas Mesner update 2

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We recommend you read these pages before reading this page:
http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/douglas-misicko-alias-douglas-mesner-update/
http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/douglas-misicko-alias-douglas-mesner/
http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/harassment-by-false-memory-proponents/
http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/rebuttal-to-the-report-from-the-smart-2009-conference/

These pages will give readers the full background on this subject as well as a rebuttal to Mesner’s comments about ritual abuse and our conference. These pages list many of the comments posted by Douglas Mesner as well as other aliases. These pages will show connections between Mesner and websites like process, radiofreesatan.com and the book “Might is Right.”

Douglas Mesner has continued using personal insults and attacks against survivors of ritual abuse and the professionals that work with them.

Propaganda Techniques

In his attack on child abuse and ritual abuse survivors, he uses the propaganda techniques of false analogies and name calling.

In the technique of false analogy, two things are compared that may or may not really be similar are presented as being similar. In most false analogies, there isn’t enough evidence available to support the comparison.

Mesner compares ritual abuse survivors to alien abductees. In this false comparison, he lists what he considers certain parallels between the two. Yet, this does not prove that either are the same. One can take any item or concept and then list hundreds of qualities and then take another item and do the same thing. Then one could make a short list of the similar qualities on these lists. This does not make either item similar, nor does it prove that ritual abuse memories are not real. Ritual abuse occurrences have been well documented, with scientific studies, corroboration and legal cases.

See http://childabusewiki.org/index.php?title=Ritual_Abuse for information on ritual abuse.

He also lists a couple of physiological similarities between alien abductees and trauma survivors. Of course, anyone under stress may report greater psychophysiological reactivity and this would not in any way prove a lack of veracity of the accounts of trauma survivors or ritual abuse survivors. All it shows is that people under stress show greater psychophysiological reactivity.


In the technique of name calling, one attaches a negative label to a person or concept. The use of this technique creates fear and arouses prejudice in the reader by using negative words or bad names to create an unfavorable opinion or hatred against a group, beliefs or ideas that the user would want the reader to disbelieve. The use of this method encourages the reader to make a conclusion without examining the actual evidence. Name calling can also used as a substitute for arguing the actual merits of an idea, belief or proposal.

Mesner uses this techniques often, calling those he disagrees with in certain topic areas “delusional” or “paranoid.” He calls theories he disagrees with “conspiracies theories” and organizations that expose ritual abuse and cult crimes a “danger” to people. The exposing of ritual abuse and child abuse crimes helps build the social awareness of these crimes, which can help with the prevention of future crimes against children.

MPD and Recovered Memory

Mesner continues to attack the reality of MPD – multiple personality disorder (now called DID – dissociative identity disorder) calling it mythical. The concept of DID/MPD has been well proven in the scientific literature and it is even in the DSM-IV-TR.

See http://ritualabuse.us/research/did/ for more information on DID-MPD.

Mesner calls the idea of recovered memory validity “debunked.” Yet, there is ample evidence that many studies that show fairly high corroboration rates for recovered memories with many corroborated cases of recovered memory.

See http://ritualabuse.us/research/memory-fms/recovered-memory-data/ for more information on recovered memory veracity.

Attacks on S.M.A.R.T.

Mesner continues his attacks on S.M.A.R.T. He apparently concludes that there is an “overlap” between S.M.A.R.T. and the “UFO community” just because S.M.A.R.T. had two press releases in our newsletter over ten years ago, one about a group and another about a person working on several issues (only one of which was alien abduction issues). He also critiques S.M.A.R.T. for having listed one person in our newsletter that S.M.A.R.T. listed for information on secret societies. This person in other places has also talked about aliens. This is similar to stating that a mainstream newspaper has an overlap with the UFO community, because they had articles about UFOs.

He takes extreme cases of ritual abuse and cult crimes out of context, ignoring evidence showing that these crimes may have or actually did occur. He uses this technique to attempt to discredit the large volume of work and research others and S.M.A.R.T. have presented. S.M.A.R.T. presents a large amount of information on its website, mainly from mainstream newspapers, journal articles and scientific websites. S.M.A.R.T. may not necessarily agree with all of the views presented at our conferences, on our webpage and in our newsletters. S.M.A.R.T. does however try to give voice to survivors of ritual abuse and child abuse crimes whenever possible.

Monday, January 31, 2011

Douglas Misicko alias Douglas Mesner update

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We recommend you read these pages before reading this page:
http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/douglas-misicko-alias-douglas-mesner/
http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/harassment-by-false-memory-proponents/
http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/rebuttal-to-the-report-from-the-smart-2009-conference/

These pages will give readers the full background on this subject as well as a rebuttal to Mesner’s comments about ritual abuse and our conference. These pages list many of the comments posted by Douglas Mesner as well as other aliases. These pages will show connections between Mesner and websites like process, radiofreesatan.com and the book “Might is Right.”

Douglas Mesner and another alias have continued using the same and similar personal insults and attacks against survivors of ritual abuse and the professionals that work with them. One alias attacks SMART stating it is a “for-profit” business. SMART is a type of not for profit business, with no salaries whatsoever. Any surplus is used to help SMART continue its work to educate the public about child abuse and ritual abuse issues.

An alias states in essence that Neil Brick promotes the idea that the abuse of a child could be the cause of anything other than dysfunctional traits (when discussing how survivors may be tortured to do other roles) and that this is equal to saying that child abuse is beneficial for its victims. Neither SMART nor Neil Brick have ever stated child abuse is beneficial in anyway. SMART and Neil Brick’s strong stance is that child abuse is always traumatic to its victims.

An alias makes a statement that SMART and Neil Brick are attempting to silence skeptics. This is clearly false. There have been skeptics debating in the ritual abuse field for years. Responses to false statements that have been made by Douglas Mesner and other aliases, some of which are listed at http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/harassment-by-false-memory-proponents/ .

Mesner criticizes the excellent study on extreme abuse survivors, found at http://extreme-abuse-survey.net/ with more than 2000 respondents with a large questionnaire developed by several experienced researchers in the field. This excellent preliminary study gives extreme abuse survivors a voice and shows how large this problem is.

Mesner continues to make the false claim comparing alien abductions to ritual abuse cases. The fact is that there have been criminal convictions for crimes with ritual abuse elements and ritual abuse survivors suffer from the severe trauma symptoms survivors of extreme abuse do.

Mesner criticizes survivors of child abuse and ritual abuse for leaving comments at message boards, which they do to defend themselves and even for voting on comments. He criticizes the fact that survivor websites (that are working to expose child abuse and ritual crimes) do not allow comments. The reason for this is the repeated name calling, personal insults and harassment of child abuse and ritual abuse survivors.

Click here http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/douglas-misicko-alias-douglas-mesner-update/ for the full version of the article.

Thursday, December 23, 2010

Douglas Misicko alias Douglas Mesner information

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Background

We recommend you read these pages before reading this page:
http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/harassment-by-false-memory-proponents/
http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/rebuttal-to-the-report-from-the-smart-2009-conference/


These pages will give readers the full background on this subject as well as a rebuttal to Mesner’s comments about ritual abuse and our conference. These pages list many of the comments posted by Douglas Mesner as well as other aliases. These pages will show connections between Mesner and websites like process, radiofreesatan.com and the book “Might is Right.”

Douglas Misicko stopped payment on the check he used to pay for the conference after the conference. Our conference brochure, which all that register are required to read, states “Members of secret organizations, acting out perpetrators, and/or members of unsympathetic organizations are excluded from the conference. This is for the protection and safety of those in attendance.” Also, it is clearly announced at the beginning of the conference, “Please note that media people are not allowed in the conference at any time without the written permission of SMART.” This is also for the protection and safety of those in attendance.


Reply to Recent Posted Article

SMART, Neil Brick and others did debate Douglas Mesner on the Internet after the conference and rebutted his arguments.

Neil Brick stated at the conference:

The important thing is to make sure that the victims’ sides of the story are heard. To get their versions of the story out to as many people as possible, so that those responsible for these crimes will continue to be held accountable and so that when children are raped…they will be believed….We need to be our own advocates. If enough of us speak up, we will be heard.”

Mesner continues to make misstatements about Neil Brick and SMART in his recent post. He misrepresents SMART’s position in this article.


He critiques the use of the word “alleged” by a survivor, yet the use of this word in writing is used for legal reasons.


Click here
http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/douglas-misicko-alias-douglas-mesner/ for the rest of the article.